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Extend a hand to iran if they clench their fist. but it's nothing really, no serious negotiations, more provocative behavior. there's a view now that the only way to get iran to change is to make the price for the nuclear program so dear to them, that you do that through sanctions and tightening the economic screws and also through covert activity. >> do we have any idea how long the drone operations have gone on and what we have learned from them? >> we've been told about two years, maybe more than that. and it's a measure of how effective they are in terms of their invisibility. this is the ...

It. we should be doing it with them. we should be engaged in covert activity. we should be engaged in sanctioning. sanctioning their central bank so they cannot be exporting oil. that doesn't mean that they won't be exporting oil, they'd send to it china but china would pay a lot less on the world market if they are the only one that is buying the oil. finally, this is the last point, that is we need to say to iran, you either open up these facilities for inspection, you start to dismantle them or we will engage in working with the israelis for a strike package, an air assault to takeout these...

The first one we know about was his involvement with the solidarity movement in poland and the velvet revolution in czechoslovakia in 1989. there he was overthrowing communist regimes, which is good. but then he started overthrowing all kind of regimes. he would get involved in the open society institute groups, which he would put in the countries and then those open society institutes would become centers of covert activity. he admitted to this. that he overthrew this government, overthrew that government. >> it's subversive activity. disrupting the regime. that was a lot of fun. >> he says w...

Including covert activity. >> mike: mr. secretary, i want to ask you very much for joining me today. it's an honor to have you with us, i thank you for the efforts you're doing there through the baker institute at rice university and for, again, the senior statesmanship you brought to this country. thank you, again for giving up part of your saturday to be with us (applause) >> well, technique on the ice made him a champion, can he transform those moves and be crowned king of the dance floor? figure skating gold medallist evan lysacek and his partner anna will be joining us next. [ female anno...

Plan. use covert activity -- >> which is already being done. ther's covert activity to set back their program by the israelis, by the united states. >> we know by the israelis. we don't have any evidence, if you look at what's being done, mostf the evidence to actually trails back to the israelis and the methodology that they use. there's no evidence the ited states is at all compcit in working at that. that's what -- i would be very direct that we wou, in fact, and openly talk about this. w? because i want to make sure that iran knows that when i say that iran is not getting a nuclear apon, t...