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Before with the cold war with an empire trying to destroy us and ronald reagan and margaret thatcher defeated the soviets without a single shot. if the first priority is genocide, we can do other things before killing everyone. we don't have to be bombing people to persuade them. if the president can't persuade half of america to agree with him, how will he persuade people in iraq and syria? >> what do you think of this clearly of a communist on the seat? >> exactly. no. my thing is to as what you said, why do we not have our pr machine on our side? what i'm sick and tired of seeing is them al...

They were the ones defending freedom. they were the ones defending us. they were the ones that represented what it means to sacrifice ones self for the cause of god and the cause of humanity. so i think we should all be siding with those who represent what is virtuous in our society not barbaric. >> salam, all the things you say about blasting like what has happened why aren't voices like yours doing more perhaps to thwart this? we know the pr machine that isis has out there. what more can muslims do to try to counter the brainwashing that is going on? >> you know first of all, these situation...

Just $4,000. you're talking about millions. is it that we're underestimating the power of money here? could it actually work? >> well look again, what happens is you can't discount the importance of the religious affiliation of the family of triable connections when you're talking about trying to get someone to drop a dime on somebody within a terrorist organization. so it's an important tool in the kit bag, i'm not saying it's not, it's a worthwhile and important tool it's not as effective as possible. >> it's curious to me about how we're going to get the messaging to be as effective on our ...

We knew that the pr machine from the white house was a little bit stronger than ours and the visual the president needed with organizers and activists from around the country, supports the notion of a dialogue that's going on, when in actuality for years and decades and certainly months and weeks, our voices have gone unheard at all levels of government. we know things are happening at the top level of government and it trickles down eventually. progress takes time. progress is slow. but quite frankly, this meeting is long overdue. >> so let me do two things. you used the language of murder. i...

See elizabeth warren out there. >> we have already seen in the polls when she's included with hillary clinton now, hillary clinton wins big, but there's a big block for warren. john, what about elizabeth warren in the senate? it's only been about a year and a half. what is her reputation like there and how has that gone so far? >> her reputation is one of having built a very good pr machine. she's sort of created this bad problem for her in the senate because she's created such a huge profile for herself. what have you done? she hasn't really done that much in the senate but she's only been th...