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>> well, the gop establishment created the tea party. theys a tro turfed this. koch money came out and they focused on some of these people who are republicans, but to the right of the republican mainstream, and so they got all these people organized and they got them boiling tea and they got them talking about being against the government and spending and they got stronger and stronger and stronger, and now they are just a bunch of crack pots, but that is now the center of the republican party. >> you know, michelle, i mention tom cotton, a republican, right? he won the senate nomination in a...

A little bit more important. here's my theory on this whole thing. >> i could shake some stuff on the jobs report to make it took better. >> here's my theory. i think they saw the commercial and they said how dare they take our idea of magic pixy dust as a magic elixir. go after those guys, boys. >> you do want to crack down on crack pots and people foisting stuff that's not true. what do you think? >> i think it's fine the government regulate false and misleading advertising. that helps the capital system to make sure people aren't taken advantage of. >> you trust the advertisements of those ...

Right now we have a guy just as explosive in terms of bringing down the government, bringing down our national debt. let's go default. anything goes in my lexicon of weapons. >> well, and i think if he ever got the republican nomination, chris, he would lead to the same outcome that the republicans suffered in 1964. it would be a profound drubbing. but the danger here, it's interesting. a lot of us blue state people from california or new york, sometimes we turn up our noses at texas. sometimes we say they're a bunch of crack pots. let them secede. they have their mccarthy-ites and crazies. bu...

They got absolutely clobber in the election when the biggest vote against them and right back to the same old strategy. this doesn't help people like cantor trying to rebrand the republican party. makes them look like the same old horrible gas bags they were in the first two years. >> but a lot of them, anyway, now do seem to be trying to find a way to get there on immigration. and get to a bill-signing with the president. >> i'm skeptical. look at all of the back wash they're getting from the tea party and the crack pots on the talk radio and all that stuff. i don't know that this is going to...

>> well, the other republican senator in the state voted for it, john mccain voted -- >> well, mccain has been able to stand up for what he believes. i may not agree but you've got to give him credit for standing up what he thinks is right. which a lot of people on both parties, but particularly in the republican party, didn't do. this is a bankrupt strategy, lawrence. they're using the same playbook they used last time and they got clobbereded. that is, let's not give the president any victories. the problem is -- i don't understand how they can misread this so badly. they got absolutely clob...