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Potential cooperating witness from coming on board and turning state's evidence. >> that's interesting. chris christie today said that the case is remarkably important for the credibility of bob mueller. do you see this as a big test for bob mueller? >> i think it is a test for bob mueller. you know, you have to remember, there are 12 jurors here, regular, everyday people. it only takes one of them to hang this case. you never know what happens in a trial and in the jury room. i wouldn't say it's a terrible thing for mueller if he doesn't get his conviction here. they can always try it again i...

So laura, do you want to respond to that? because i have another question for you. >> i can say certainly, this is very inartful, the way it's going down. but remember, he's not going to gamble on that crap shoot of whether the president of the united states' ear will bend to his request for a pardon. we see the president doesn't follow even the formal pardoning process of things. albeit there's a kim kardashian west in the oval office who's been able to articulate a reason to pardon someone justifiably. but normally speaking, he has not followed the protocol. i doubt cohen or his legal counse...

Frankly. it doesn't seem to be working. we saw guiliani last hour trashing cohen. but what i think, the only way to make sense of this strategy, to the extent it's a strategy, is that it's meant to tell the president's team, look, if you don't pardon me, and he can pardon cohen before he's charged, he can pardon him at any time. if it you don't pardon me, i've got the goods on you and i'm going to make your life very difficult, so i'm trying to get your attention here and let you know i'm very serious. that's the only way i can make sense of the strategy that doesn't seem to make sense otherwi...

Document or communique to be signed in advance or an agreement that's going to be signed by two world leaders, which often happens. >> and that's what i think makes this summit so worrisome to our european allies. frankly, our other friends around the world. normal lit staffs have done all this work and the outcome is precooked. two leaders sit down, sign a communique, do a presser, and it's done. usually there's something tangible that both can take away from this, some agreement to move forward on a particular issue. typically these summits are about one issue. in this case, we have none of ...

You, 39-year-old from guatemala who doesn't have any documentation, you have to prove to us this is in fact your son. that is a prosess that takes on average 30 days. if this is the first person who got in to see her son and it's going to take her 30 days, there's nobody that's gotten out now who will see their kid before that deadline. it sounds like they want to put those in detention now together and keep them in detention somewhere. the others, it's going to be a crap shoot. >> i'm sure you don't have the answer to this question. but how it it that these families attempting to abide by had...