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Producer is saying that there is a state department official who said roughly 4,100 americans who remain in afghanistan who are actively trying to get out, and the reporting is such that the person who said, well, it is a crap shoot, because we don't have the accurate number, but there are believed to be somewhere in that area of 4,000 americans trying to get out. is the u.s. on pace to evacuate that many americans potentially by next, what, tuesday? >> well, capacity wise, absolutely, they can get 4,000 people out, but you have to figure, these are the ones who are almost the most difficult o...

Jillian: we had a powerful emotional interview with an american who is stranded in afghanistan after we heard the white house, jen psaki saying people aren't stranded in afghanistan. i want to pull up a tweet from the ground in afghanistan, americans are stranded in afghanistan, denying this fact is ignoring reality. that is a powerful message. carley: one of the reasons americans feel they are stranded is you have to pass through town and checkpoints to get to the airport and it is a crap shoot. you the taliban will let you go

Guidelines and get them to the airport and out. >> let me ask you about that. we're hearing the u.s. is trying to establish alternate routes because of the threat from isis. on top of that we're seeing taliban fighters pushing people away from the airport. what have you been hearing about how difficult it is for someone to get to the right airport gate? because that appears to be the source of so much of this confusion. >> jim, it's horrible. i have a chat open right now. i have thousands of chats coming up. when people reach out to us, even american citizens, getting them to the gates is -- i...

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>> that is absolutely not me. >> reporter: the jury got the case in 2010. a jury that certainly heard about but never saw the mysterious david novak. so did they buy the prosecutor's evidence or bianca's explanations, her alibi for chris? >> i was concerned because i'd been told that sometimes it can be a crap shoot was the phrase that was used. >> reporter: the jury deliberated for 11 hours, and the verdict -- guilty. >> i can't even begin to explain. it's like the bottom falls out of your world. and he wouldn't let me hug him. you know. sorry. just give me a sec. >> reporter: that's all righ...