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Whoas, will i continue to receive information that validate -- >> yes. >> -- what i've been looking for? >> yes. >> and you, on the other hand, discount it entirely, would you receive information that -- >> yes. >> -- continue to discount it? >> yes. >> so how do you know it's real? how would any know what's real? >> that's the accepts of why i'm so concerned. ten years ago it was pictures of our friends and that was enough. but now it's conspiracy theories, incendiary content, violence, tribalism. the algorithm has figured out that driving wedges between people on these controversial issues i...

>> you have to agree on what's truth and you have to feed that truth into the algorithm and then you have to tell the algorithm, create engagement, meet the profit numbers, but do it without lying. the reason that's not happening, in my view, is the incentive's not there. even though i believe it is within their capability. >> you mean that facebook wouldn't make money? >> it wouldn't make as much money. j in your congressional testimony, you expressed fear that the consequence of all this could be civil war. why do you believe that? >> i was thinking about civil war because i think it's the n...

Algorithm. and then you'd have to tell the algorithm, create engagement, meet the profit numbers but do it without lying. the reason that's not happening in my view is the incentives aren't there. even though i believe it is within their capability. >> you mean that facebook wouldn't make money. >> they wouldn't make as much money. >> in your congressional testimony you expressed fear that the consequence of all this could be civil war. why do aiobyou believe that? >> i was thinking about civil war because i believe it's the natural extrapolation from an all knowing algorithm that has the fina...

Feed that truth into the algorithm. then you'd have to tell the algorithm, create engagement, meet the profit numbers, but do at this time without lying. the reason that's not happening, in my view, is the incentives aren't there. even though i believe it is within their capability. >> you mean facebook wouldn't make money? >> they wouldn't make as much money. >> in your congressional testimony, you expressed fear that the consequence of all this could be civil war. why do you believe that? >> i was thinking about civil war because it's the natural extrapolation of an ongoing algorithm that ha...

>> yes. >> -- continues to discount it? >> yes. >> so how do you know what's real? how would anyone know what's real? >> that's the essence of why i'm so concerned. i mean ten years ago, it was pictures of our friends, and that was enough. but now it's conspiracy theories, incendiary content, violence, tribalism. the algorithm has figured out that driving wedges between people on these controversial issues is just wonderful business. >> do you think that there is this concerted effort to incite this kind of tribalism? >> my view is they don't have malicious intent. i think they're negligent. >...