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Constantly under attack. so what you are thinking if you are in the intelligence community or fbi, you are thinking that you want to be able to do your job and continue to serve your country but it is very difficult. you put your head down and focus on your job and push forward and hope that as the pendulum swings, we get back to a time where we value the institutions an and the work they do. >> are they worn down, the people that protect this country, are they worn down by this? >> i think you have to understand, yes, this is the kind of thing that wears them down but that does not impeas -- ...

>> explain, please. >> we are in a cultural situation today where i don't care what people are doing in their bedroom. i don't care what they are doing in their bedroom if they are public officials or nonpublic officials. we should move the curve in that position and focus on the things the president is doing for the country, not his personal life. north korea, economy is booming, wages are up. >> all right. >> i predict the president will figure out a way to cut a deal with the iranians that will be a better deal than the prior administration. if we can relax on these stories. >> you can't pa...

How is that any different than any other politician? >> and the answer is 3,000 lies. right? >> but your only answer is volume. >> correct. >> i know. and that is the -- the voter would say so? >> okay. what are we here for? >> i guess the question is, it does eventually matter. the argument i made this morning was bill clinton didn't pay a price in 1998. but hillary clinton paid bill clinton's price in 2016. eventually donald trump and the republicans will pay a price. >> and bill clinton replaced by george w. bush ran on honor and integrity in the presidency. so how do you play off of trump'...

And articulate that with the white house. there has to be a frustration. they're doing their jobs every day, they are trying to do their best. but they seem out of the the loop. >> john roberts said that, he said the white house staff did not know last night that rudy guiliani was going on hannity and put it out there. this is a story we're talking about self-inflicted wound, we have four or five different stories whether cohen got repaid yes or no. whether the president knew. when did he know. what did he know. kennedy is right, it was interesting rudy said, yeah, there was almost like he did...

The president's misstatementing. >> the president has to be held accountable for lying, he just does. all presidents lie, but he seems to do it far more routinely. and i think, you know, even supporters of the president who may not like kritd schicriticis if they're going to hold us accountable, they ought to hold us accountable as well for lies that speak to real insecurity, you know, that raise such credibility questions. and that are easily exploitable. you know, when we talk about the influence of the russians, you know, these are tactics that the russians have used, that putin has used to...