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State of mind and every impeachment proceeding in modern times from nixon through clinton we see them played out. >> all right. so let's, robert, you play the role of the proverbial bucket of cold water on this. >> do you think these would qualify as false statements for the purpose of legal analysis? >> not in a criminal context. first of all, false statements to the media don't give rise to a criminal proceeding, only to statements made to government officials. it's a pr problem. it's political problem. it's a credibility problem which is not insignificant. as i think your network has shown ...

Involved in this statement, that it's democrats that are making this a story. here's how she said it. >> the democrats want to continue to use this as a pr stunt and they're doing everything they can to keep this story alive and in the papers every single day. >> that would be convenient except it is not true, again, like a lot of things we're pointing out tonight. senator lindsey graham is a republican. that's how he votes. and here is how he reacted to the news that the president was involved in writing this statement. >> if that's true, then that was a bad decision by the president, which w...

Media should be focusing on democrats and not the president. and not to belabor an obvious point but certainly hillary clinton is not in the oval office and donald trump is and there seems to be a trust deficit that is being created with some on capitol hill and i want to tell you what lindsey graham said. he said, if this was true, it was a bad decision by the president. when you get caught in a lie about one thing, it makes it hard to say just let the other stuff go. is this what's hurting the president's legislative agenda, the credibility issue. >> i think what's hurting the legislative ag...

I was shocked that saturday when he did that. sean was -- you know, sean was great prior to. you know, first couple of weeks, he was great. but after a while, when the twitter verse came in, the trolls came in off of twitter and said, why is she asking questions, when that base said that april ryan shouldn't be in the room, the mood changed. even the president -- i had a former white house press secretary call me and say, do you think the president told sean spicer to do that about shaking your head? so after that, things changed with us. i wish him well but, you know, unfortunately, he lost h...

There are 3 million illegal aliens who voted, then you don't have the data to back it up, some are going to say that it's irresponsible for the president to say that. >> many people have come out and said i am right. when you see illegals, people who are not citizens and they're on the registration roles. bill, we can be babies, but you take a look at the registration, you have illegals, you have dead people. it's a really bad situation, it's really bad. >> well, in addition to the credibility issue, there is an issue as well of where the president is focusing his attention, right? because you...