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Touch with him that day and here's what he had to say about it. >> we get to october 7, which was a very, very busy day from here in new york. skpf roger calls me three times. we have three times we have a discussion. now, my recollection is that roger is saying this billy bud is going to be dropped and assange better get going, why don't you get to your buddy assange and tell him to start? well, i didn't have any contact with assange. but roger, going back to july and august, may have -- you know, may have led him on. >> now, roger stone insists that this is false. he said he didn't talk abou...

Oh yeah one bottle has the grease cleaning power of three bottles of this other liquid. a drop of dawn and grease is gone. does it matter? that's the question facing judge kavanaugh on all these credibility issues. now, look, i'm open to being wrong, and it would be really nice if the fbi could provide clarity in a situation that is certainly cloudy. but assuming arguendo that the senators can't judge if the ford and ramirez or any other allegations are credible and well corroborated, how do they judge kavanaugh when it comes to credibility? now, first, i don't believe that this is about how...

So, when the world expects you to follow the rules, write your own. ♪ because no one gets an opinion on how you live your life, why you shave, or how you show your skin. my skin. my way. ♪ does it matter? that's the question facing judge kavanaugh on all these credibility issues. now, look, i'm open to being wrong, and it would be really nice if the fbi could provide clarity in a situation that is certainly cloudy. but assuming arguendo that the senators can't judge if the ford and ramirez or any other allegations are credible and well corroborated, how do they judge kavanaugh when it co...

I'm loathed to say there is one thing to say there is one thing to take the president down. both of them have credibility issues. what you have in a reality television president is all these cast of characters that kind of have their personalities and have their own agendas. and for president trump, because he has his own credible issues, there is not a way to 100% say omarosa clearly is wrong and she never heard that, especially because she says there will be other tapes coming out. that could be devastating. >> tim o'brian, you are i think the only one among us who has had conversations with...

Would be? >> if that tape really did exist, it would be a bombshell for the president. unlike some other things that have happened to the president, the n word is steeped in history. people have swung from trees. people have been enslaved. whole generations of people were denied the right to vote. so much violence was really perpetrated on african-americans using that word that it is a special place in american history that i think the president would have a hard, hard, hard time coming back from. that said the access hollywood tape, everyone was thinking, this is the end of his campaign. ever...