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Impactful, to signal that what they are doing is to try to have a conversation with the american people that should rise above some of the noise, that should speak to all americans. i think it is important enough to call on this piece of presidential power. we haven't seen this president use this. this is his opportunity if he chooses to take it to be bigger than i think we see him in a lot of other formats. if he doesn't do that i think it will undermine any attempts he has in the future to use this for that kind of purpose. there may be a moment when we truly are in a moment of national cris...

Says -- >> any time one of us is wrong it hurts our case and credibility. but to support what has been a customs and border patrol to support security that includes a wall and fencing. the president can make that case. >> the problem is the boy who cried wolf, the credibility has been so damaged and facts been so disproved it's been a real conundrum for networks to try to figure out how to handle it tonight. there's suggestions of having it on a delay, real-time fact checking afterwards. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer demand equal time because they believe there will be so much erroneous infor...

See what's going on and the fact that he is just manufacturing this crisis. he just did it. he was just the boy who cried wolf, right? i mean it just happened. and i don't think most people are going to fall for it. what's even more concerning about it is that we actually have real threats against this count country, you know, that should be dealt with, that he's not focusing time on. you know, cyberattacks, for example. you know, hacking. these kinds of things that we actually know are real national security problems, and he's not spending time on that. instead, he's spending time on trying t...

The showmanship, the bluster. but it's not working. i mean his aides are telling him that his build-a-wall slogan doesn't have the same impact anymore. do you see the president closing the deal with an oval office address and he hasn't used that tool yet? >> i don't think so. i think that he's preaching to the choir. the people who are going to support this idea already support it. and i think the rest of us can see what's going on and the fact that he is just manufacturing this crisis. he just did it. he was just the boy who cried wolf, right? i mean it just happened. and i don't think most p...

Significance? you talk about it as dictatorial. this is, you know, people always say, what is the step too far for this president? is it possible that it could be this or no? >> this is a certain first step too far. he's taking really inherent powers of the president and using them for a pure political purpose. and that is very dangerous, because it's crying wolf. maybe his parents never told him about the little boy who cried wolf, because this is where he's getting into a dangerous area. when he mixes his lies in with national security and claims crisis that are not, in fact, that. because w...