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They are violating the ongoing consent decree with the government. there is real damage done again. everyone seems to be afraid to call this what it is. it's crime and reaction to an unfortunate, awful situation. a lot of these protests turn into criminal activity over the weekend. >> absolutely. let's not forget the suspect precipitated his own death. he had many opportunities where he didn't have to have to die and he chose to do what he did and he did die. when you look at this narrative of black lives matter, you know, it is the boy who cried wolf. pretty soon no one is going to listen whe...

Years as excuse to obstruct. >> anyone on that list of 25 or any conservative and the same reaction would have been there. an hour later, not even an hour later and blood is running in the streets according to these people, remember that the same crowd, people for the american way, they said that justice sutter was going to overturn roe v. wade. we have been hearing this. it's not down to merrick garland. you have been hearing the hysteria, overreaction dating back before. >> well -- >> they got it wrong and it's the boy who cried wolf. carley: when nile gorsuch was up for high court, 40 democ...

Rudy giuliani said a week ago he is defending for a public opinion, since congress will ultimately decide whether to impeach. why do you, sir, insist it's too early to discuss impeachment when the president's legal team is already playing the long game? >> they are discussing it because they know -- this is true throughout our history -- that the more you talk about impeachment, the more you rally the forces to your own side. people use impeachment threats, even obama helped gin up threats against himself, to raise money. it's a standard technique. it's a dangerous technique. too much impeachm...

It will be too late. it will be like the boy who cried wolf. that's why i think we can have too much impeachment talk. chapter five of our book is devoted to analyzing that. but we can't have too much thought about impeachment, reading about impeachment. we have to understand it. there are many myths about it that our book takes down. a myth that impeachability and criminality are the same thing. all kinds of minutes. we need to educate ourselves and the broad public before we're ready to take this fateful step in the history of our republic. >> lawrence tribe, author of "to end a presidency, ...

Lawyer would take this case on. this is probably the most of motivated he has been in 8 years. jesse: he's work hard to stay where he is. i can't believe his parents have to write him five letters. i have a 3-year-old. i can't imagine going to court in 27 years to kick my daughter out of my home. >> we invited him on to "watters world." let's play some sound from this guy. he was talking about impeachment. this is what he said. >> you can't be the boy who cried wolf and expect to have a viable impeachment power. you can't use it over and over again against the same president. if you are going ...