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To understand the nature and scope of the ads in the election. but mueller will have that information. it's very powerful. >> jill, i wonder if you could walk us through the different features of a potential criminal conspiracy. ultimately, if bob mueller's looking at something illegal like hacking he wants to see whether americans were involved according to u.s. intel, criminal hacking occurred. it seems that the facebook piece and the money piece if there is one are other ways, that is to say, even if you put the hacking and the pilfered e-mails aside, the money spent on facebook ads or if a...

With him the second time. he said there's no such money sloshing around we have to em loi risk capital and trump is risk capital. the big danger i mueller's investigation is he finds money laundering in the real estate purchases in florida. the other stuff will be hard to prove. i'm not an expert on russia. the hacking, clearly they hacked the election. it's what happened and how much compliance did trump and trump junior have with that. it looks pretty clear that trump sold properties and inflated prices to russians and that was a way of trump making money and the russians laundering money. i...

That's been in the press and from the congress over the past -- and the administration over the past several weeks. but it also could be used to influence and put pressure on people to provide information. >> right. >> it's absolutely clear that they will not extradite from russia. >> right. let me give daniel, you wanted to respond to that. >> i actually think as to this sliver of the investigation, this is probably it in my view. based on reading the indictment, when you talk about the campaign officials and you see them, they are florida-based officials that have nothing to do with the cent...

He is a spammer who writes and sells virus spamming spamware, and is probably involved in writing viruses and trojans. and probably one of the longest running crime lords on the spam internet. now, the reason why this kind of arrest is now american politics is because one of the things we've all had to learn in reporting and understanding the story of the russian government hacking our presidential election last year one of the things we have had to get familiar with in terms of how the russian government, the russian military and intelligence services mount those kind of attacks, we have had ...