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He said, look, i respectfully decline to comment about the specifics of that. one of the reasons here is that now we're talking about potentially obstruction of justice. this has gone from just, you know, kind of a political criticism to the potential of obstruction of justice here. no one wants to discuss this publicly. there's no question -- thinking back to those days last year, last spring, when jeff sessions recused himself, i remember i was with president trump, he was in norfolk, virginia on a military boat. he was -- the "gerald ford," touring it. he got word and was very upset. as we ...

Deals in arkansas would find his way to a 24-year-old intern with a blue dress and then it was all about perjury? i talked to henry hyde about it at the time and said, you know, this is disappointing that after millions of dollars this is where we end up. and so -- >> did you vote for -- >> i did vote for impeachment because it was about perjury. >> okay. >> it was a question of perjury. >> why did you bring up the same concerns then -- >> i did. i did do it. that's what i'm saying. >> all right. we haven't heard from phillip for a while. phillip? >> let me yield the floor. >> i appreciate tha...

That after millions of dollars this is where we end up. >> did you vote for impeachment? >> i did vote for impeachment because it was about perjury. >> okay. >> it was a question of perjury. >> why did you bring up the same concerns then -- >> i did. i did do it. that's what i'm saying. >> all right. we haven't heard from phillip for a while. phillip? >> let me yield the floor. >> i appreciate that, sir. i want to make two points. the first is that the playbook that we have seen essentially since donald trump started running for president is to find little nit-picky things to use to the try an...

Allegedly was asked to do something with comey, as well. we've seen repeated instances in which donald trump has used multiple people to try and get what he wants. that's fundamentally what the question is here. yes, there's this broader question, broader criminal question of obstruction of justice. what we're seeing is a president who is used to getting his way, came from the private sector where he's a ceo and sort of, you know, active by edict, who comes into the presidency and tries to do the same sort of thing. i think that fundamentally is what these additional sources reveal. yes, once ...

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