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Of did something that i don't remember doing and rallying the troops and facts and figures and go online and verify and it sort of set the bar so much higher. it's sort of like the first time you see basketball you say, now you've got to do that. >> i thought the president made a good show but the first lady was off the charts. >> she kind of stole the show. >> now, how do you think they have done, they have gone on late night tv and tried to soften themselves up. let me show you an example. critique it for me as one of the best that has done this. >> what about that sarah palin? she's not rea...

I started by saying, here's why you're qualified to talk about this. here's why you're qualified to talk about this. what do we make of this notion of sort of qualification and the idea that affirmative action basically discriminates on the basis of race while not accounting for merit, which i think is kind of the fundamental crux of where people have disagreement with ax tiffirmati action as a policy? >> oh, me? >> anybody. i'm not going there. >> i have an issue with people that critique it, especially in this situation where the school where the big lawsuit is coming up now has a 10% rule, ...