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As far as we know so far there's been no allegation of collusion. but saying so far is the key statement. it doesn't mean there is no proof of further coordination of activity and that there won't be forthcoming. indeed, it is pretty unlikely that there will be no coordination whatsoever. we have seen indications of it. the trump tower meeting with donald trump, jr., for example. carter page's trips to moscow. there are straws in the wind, if you will, that suggest some form of, if not coordination, at least cross pollination of information between some people in the trump campaign and the rus...

If a white guys got a good jump shot, would they welcome you in there? >> you may feel that way and it may not be that these guys have an issue with you. >> okay. >> it's that the guys who look like you may have an issue with you coming over here. >> oh. is there any sort of effort to try to create that cross-pollination? >> there are many efforts. whether through educational opportunities. through programs we have. work assignments. we do try to bring our population together and we successfully put people next to each other who traditionally will not be next to each other. >> okay. sam wanted...

Wants to play basketball, is it just not recommended that you go over there? if a white guys got a good jump shot, would they welcome you in there? >> you may feel that way and it may not be that these guys have an issue with you. >> okay. >> it's that the guys who look like you may have an issue with you coming over here. >> oh. is there any sort of effort to try to create that cross-pollination? >> there are many efforts. whether through educational opportunities. through programs we have. work assignments. we do try to bring our population together and we successfully put people next to eac...

Little cross pollination. discussion. how much has being a player and being a coach sensitized you to issues you never would have been sensitive to? >> it's really one of the great blessings in my life is to have been raised overseas in different cultures with different people from all over the world. and then from actually junior high on, basically living and working, or going to school in integrated situations and then being in the nba for i guess 27 years now, whatever, 29 years, it's a multicultural melting pot work environment and you just, you understand. you start to see where everybody...

And cross pollination. this is how trump always thrived. maybe thrive isn't the right word. he runs his white house like he ran his business. it is ripe with conflict. personality clashes and chaos. >> before i let you go, what do you expect to see? what do you think we'll see from russia, from iran, from allies internationally as part of the fallout from this? >> i think we're see some of the gulf arab allies be disturbed by this. they'll see anything that leaves assad in power as something that strengthens iran. they view iran as their biggest threat in the middle east. that's something to w...