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About whether they are using a firm they should not be using in the context of trying to find an objective firm in this lawsuit. are they necessarily biased just because they have some affiliation with progressive causes? >> they are not necessarily bias. but if their bias comes out against the overwhelming statistics, based on voter roles, hispanic, black or otherwise, if that doesn't match up with what catalist produces i would question their results. megyn: it cannot be manipulated? >> cross-referenced with the commercial data.

Blood pressure we continue with "confessions of btk." here's ann curry. >> when wichita police learned that two children and their parents had been murdered, they, of course, looked at the likeliest suspects, people who knew the family. police, however, were about to learn that they were dealing with a serial killer. a man who three decades later would offer details about his crimes and his callousness in tapes never broadcast before. again, edie magnus. >> after murdering four members of the otero family, dennis rader spent the next several years killing again and again and again. his next ...

Knew the family. police, however, were about to learn that they were dealing with a serial killer. a man who three decades later would offer details about his crimes and his callousness in tapes never broadcast before. again, edie magnus. >> after murdering four members of the otero family, dennis rader spent the next several years killing again and again and again. his next three victims were all young women. in this interview with a psychologist, rader dismisses each victim as a project. he says he begins by stalking them. >> the stalking stage is when you start learning more about your vict...

Records on millions of americans is one thing. saying at first you are going after a few conservative groups and then it's a lot more than a few and then a lot more than individuals, groups. and then a few a.p. reporters and then to justify that to go after fox, but my point is stead pattern of invading people's privacy and uig the full weight and power of the united states government to be a real pain in the ass. >> there is a lot of arrogance that goes along with it. monitoring phone calls from here to yemen, 160 million customers are calling yemen? [ laughter ] >> right after the boston ter...