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>> her state department said that right? not the current state department under john kerry, right? big pieces of context is fbi criminal investigation we all know about going on. so is the fbi cross-referencing what they have gotten from that server? hey, state department, what do you have? what did you get from hillary clinton? that is a big question for hillary clinton tonight. i think the other thing obviously is they are leaking all of this out on a friday amid the pope francis visit. amid john boehner's sudden resignation. maybe try to bury it on a friday before the weekend. that's curiou...

>> her state department said that right? not the current state department under john kerry, right? big pieces of context is fbi criminal investigation we all know about going on. so is the fbi cross-referencing what they have gotten from that server? hey, state department, what do you have? what did you get from hillary clinton? that is a big question for hillary clinton tonight. i think the other thing obviously is they are leaking all of this out on a friday amid the pope francis visit. amid john boehner's sudden resignation. maybe try to bury it on a friday before the weekend. that's curiou...

Could just google it. what did you find? >> it started out as the dark web and then they started out -- ended up on the open web where people could put in any name and see if they were involved in this. josh duggar's name did come up and we did a lot of cross-referencing to make sure it was in fact the former reality star and a man who has been very outspoken about family values. he was involved in a scandal a couple of months ago and ended up being part of the site. he came up with a statement just now and i want to read it to you. i've been the biggest hypocrite ever while espousing faith an...

Et cetera. and then we basically went and spent a couple of days trying to connect individual people to that fact pattern. >> so you did all of that cross referencing. you achieved this. you spoke with her in some capacity and corresponded with her. >> yes. >> does your reporting suggest that she did witness this incident? >> no. this is a woman who was not there. and fabricated this whole event. the thing that's kind of amazing is she first was interviewed by the police. she turned over five weeks later to the prosecutors and the f.b.i. and the united states attorney's office. they had five w...

Affirmative action need to be made, cross referencing with class, for instance, is one way of making important change, removing quotetas. but to say we should abolish it does not make sense when you look at the metrics that tell us that african-americans and latinos are lagging behind other minority groups as well as white americans. >> it's a really important point you make, james, this is more nuanced and can be more nuanced than a race based metric. victoria, let's talk about the politics. you're attending that summit, a lot of political leaders are there. this is an issue that splits a rel...