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In "the journal's" encounter with john kelly to even get that much out of him, what kind of confidence did he show in the way he dealt with this one when he was asked about it? >> well, it was brief interview that my colleague did. he was pretty clear he didn't think there was any fault on the white house's part. what is strange about that is it's at odds with what deputy press secretary ross shaw has said. ross shaw told reporters last week the white house did make mistake. they could have done things better in this instance. so kelly's sunny verdict on how the white house handled it is reall...

He was pretty clear he didn't think there was any fault on the white house's part. what is strange about that is it's at odds with what deputy press secretary ross shaw has said. ross shaw told reporters last week the white house did make mistake. they could have done things better in this instance. so kelly's sunny verdict on how the white house handled it is really at odds with the white house's own messaging. >> and betsy woodruff, what did the white house know? when did it know? it has all become more crucial, especially in march. what was it that the fbi brought to the white house in marc...

To this at 4:00 and at the shank of the evening here four minutes from mitd midnight. >> he says she was fired three times at the apprentice, and now here. i'm sorry, the white house is not the apresident present tis. >> why does the white house press secretary even know how many times she has been fired on a reality tv show? why. >> this is the crazy drama that the country is getting sucked up into. every day is another episode. almost every hour is a new chapter within that episode. and what we just saw -- you know it's crazy. oh, my god, oh, my god. please, spare me, that's not the attitude...

Seeing that he spent the half of your talking about the stock market or election of him, it's tough to talk about. >> shannon: you talk to somebody from the white house but we don't have it on video. ross shaw said this today. markets do fluctuate in the short-term, we do know that through -- they are heading to the right direction. he went on to say we are very excited about the strength of the economy. maybe a couple of days on the market, but a lot of economists and reading from today because this is not my forte, but reading from the expert that say, yes, the fund mental underpinnings of t...

Seeing that he spent the half of your talking about the stock market or election of him, it's tough to talk about. >> shannon: you talk to somebody from the white house but we don't have it on video. ross shaw said this today. markets do fluctuate in the short-term, we do know that through -- they are heading to the right direction. he went on to say we are very excited about the strength of the economy. maybe a couple of days on the market, but a lot of economists and reading from today because this is not my forte, but reading from the expert that say, yes, the fund mental underpinnings of t...