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Have a number of states that set up the so-called exchanges and they are not ready to do it. the cost have tended to be higher than anyone expected. the question is i would answer that known. they are not ready. the program starts in january of next year and lord knows where they will get the money to pay for it that is one of the biggest glitches of all. obamacare is a big cross subsidy. young people that are relatively healthy are going to be subsidizing older people who are less healthy and a lot of young people say that i don't want to pay that cost. bill: when i was young i had no money a...

We have to cut it off as long as you are providing abortion. clearly why don't they split into two organizations, one which provides abortions and one that does pap smears? answer, they do it as a cross subsidy, so pence is right. i think any spending cut is broadly popular at this point if the american people. >> bill: i'm not sure about that. if it were so. if any spending gut cut was possible and i don't believe it's true with social security and medicare. it won't go. but this is the first salvo, this back alley thing. i don't think it will get traction. nobody in the middle or clear think...