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Is this coming from? is this the white house counsel essentially trying to protect himself? what danger is there for don mcdpan? -- mcgahn? >> it is a great question. the report says the president spoke to two witnesses, and both share the same attorney. william burke. so as you start to look at the story, it's not very hard to figure out where it came from. almost certainly didn't come from bob mueller's office. almost certainly came from those two witnesses. >> who else would know what mcgahn's personal conversations were with the president? >> another thing that is interesting about it is b...

But the problem is we've seen this happen again and again. he had an agreement with chuck and nancy. those never last. so i think, to "the daily beast" story, this can, the president's weirdness can cause optics problems for the white house staff, but they will always get him back on the anti-immigrant line. they always have. there's not one case through the last year where one of these, one of these total flip-flops have ended up with him signing on with the, with the non-right-wing position. >> you know, senator, this reminds you of something a campaign manager once said to me, never get cro...

Non-right-wing position. >> you know, senator, this reminds you of something a campaign manager once said to me, never get cross wise with the candidate's family, because whenever you're done arguing, whenever you tell the candidate you've got to do this, they're going to go home to their family, and that person's going to get "the last word." schumer can strike a deal. but you are going to go home to steven miller who will tell him we need to deport everyone. >> maybe he'll go home to ivanka. >> maybe that's the voice. >> but i wanted to make a point here. you are missing one piece of it. thi...

>> reporter: extremely. there's an reason why jim comey and bob mueller have been speaking in advance of this testimony. they want to ensure that nothing jim comey says runs afoul or cross wise with the ongoing investigation. 2 investigation that everybody is really focused on right now is the federal investigation. that has the potential to be a criminal investigation. anything that skbrim comey says that could undercut that investigation or cause problems for bob mueller is something neither man, both of whom have a good relationship with one another over years of government service, wants t...

Element here and obvious very different element is actually getting it in first person. it's worth noting there are limits to what jim comey can and will say. not just because particularly in the open portion of this hearing. you just need to look at what's going on behind the scenes. they've been talking with bob mueller trying to make sure nothing he talks about, no area he goes into would run cross wise with the investigation that bob mueller is now overseeing. but the expectation is that those meetings with the president would not fall into that category and so because of that fact expect ...