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April saw the lowest ever interior removals it is an attempt to abolish i.c.e. by memo and almost a hundred percent of that reduction in enforcement is accomplished by freeing illegal immigrants who are facing separate criminal charges and convictions. that is reckless, that's immoral that has to be enjoying. >> do we know how many ms13 gang members are crossing border we don't do we? >> no. that is -- i'm so glad you raise that issue because -- that's one that keeps me up at night mark we saw the -- first hand so one of the things that when president trump came into office four years ago one ...

Interior removals it is an attempt to abolish i.c.e. by memo and almost a hundred percent of that reduction in enforcement is accomplished by freeing illegal immigrants who are facing separate criminal charges and convictions. that is reckless, that's immoral that has to be enjoying. >> do we know how many ms13 gang members are crossing border we don't do we? >> no. that is -- i'm so glad you raise that issue because -- that's one that keeps me up at night mark we saw the -- first hand so one of the things that when president trump came into office four years ago one of his first less noted ex...

And see here whether any of this is real or if he's playing the media once again to get his headlines as preferred out there when all that's real is a door in the bronx was knocked on and people went away again. >> right. of course immigration is at the core of the president's agenda. he views it as a winning issue. can democrats turn it to their benefit? >> yeah. i think that they can. and on some level i think they've just sort of begun to do that. first of all, trump wants to look like he's tough, like he's enforcing. but i think he provides an opening when he starts to go after families. i...

Migrants inside to be released and the facilities to be shut down, they say the plan raids pose a threat to the immigrant community as a whole, not just the people facing deportation. >> yes, if they come to your door and ask for you, you don't have to answer. as a person who is living in their -- in their home, if they don't have a warrant with your name on it, you don't have to answer. >> authorities in some so-called sanctuary cities are refusing to provide resources to ice, supporters of the trump administration say this will make the raids eminently more difficult. >> our agents, officers...

I.c.e. resources cities in america that got the status. yesterday we had senator graham on the couch right where you're sitting, jesse, how do -- >> is it warm? >> how did we get to this point? this is a bipartisan issue. he dow jones industrial averaged my question. goodness love him. how did we get here? >> gram -- esty. of course he wants immigration reform. touch on what andrea said. you can force states to cooperate. this is how you do it. they sued southern states over voter i.d. law. >> he was suggested that. >> withheld federal fund for states that don't want to expand medicaid and edu...