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For several gaffes. he argued that the verbal missteps we've seen from him, they aren't substantive. this certainly being one of those, it is not substantive. the last big one he got in trouble for was the mistelling of a war story. that obviously has profound consequences. he was criticized for not backing down. for something like this, it's clear it wasn't malicious. he wasn't making fun of the president. >> and you heard the crowd laugh. it's one of those things you had to address. you couldn't just let that one go. he tried to barrel through, but he was caught. >> he owned it. that's what ...

The time for why he might be losing. it's always interesting to me to see folks who talk tough but then don't act tough. talking about how great his buildings are, how luxurious, and how rich he is flying around everywhere and all he had time for was celebrities and now suddenly he's acting like he's a populist, man, i'm going to fight for working people. come on, man. >> joining us are white house correspondent michelle kosinski. he took on donald trump today and also blasted republicans who support donald trump. tell us about that. >> you heard the tone he took there, making the crowd laugh,...

The show. i just do the red carpet. i'm very lazy. >> talk about viola first, had to be the key moment of the night, no? >> yeah, i mean, it was. it was the big speech, it was the big moment. and i knew -- i really felt like the home was coming if it wasn't viola, it was going to be taraji p. henson who had the breakout year but really, the first african-american to win lead actress at the emmys, and here we are celebrating this in 2015. i mean, halle berry won her oscar in 2002. the speech, she talks about that line, opportunity in the business that line, quoting harriet tubman of the undergr...

If you know what i mean. like 9% expansion. i love herman. is he the best? today has been awesome, girl! >> joining me now is a democratic strategist and former campaign spokesman for hillary clinton. also joining us, john feehery, republican strategist and president of quinn gillespie communications. do you think that clip will help republicans see a lighter, funnier side of perry or do you think it will give them cause for concern. >> i was not in the crowd. it seemed like he was getting some pretty big laughs there. i think rick perry needs to show a lighter side. i nithink he needs to show...