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Cringe-inducingly nuts. and it's the conspiracy theory that made its way into the president's brain and into that phone call with the ukrainian president. and almost too embarrassing to get into the details so republicans just had this euphemism for it. they say 2016. have you heard that, right, in the hearings. you wanted to investigate 2016, that's the shorthand. trump didn't say 2016 in the phone call. check the transcript. he said crowd strike. look at the call notes. quote, i would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with ukraine. they say crowd strike, i guess yo...

That had the evidence over to ukraine. just to be clear, we have no reason to believe that there's like some server in a vault in kiev that is being locked away from the prying eyes of the fbi. but the whole crowd strike conspiracy theory it is -- i want to be real clear about this. it's like 9/11 truther level. nuts. because what it says is that the attack that happened on america was actually done internally by americans to themselves. that's what he's saying when he says that. and that is vile slander against americans, and it's vile slander all for the purpose to uncover the actual foreign...

Even one steven james ducey sitting on the curvy couching and staring deadeye into the camera as the president ranted was forced to raise his voice with a gentle reminder that we live on planet earth. >> a lot of it it had to do they say with ukraine -- >> but mr. president -- >> it's very interesting. they have this server right from the dnc, democratic national committee. >> who has the server? >> the fbi went in and they told him get out of here, we're not giving it to you. they gave the server to crowd strike or whatever it's called, which is a company owned by a very wealthy ukraine, and ...

Gave it to ukraine? >> well, that's what the word is. what i asked actually in my phone call. you know? i asked point blank, because we're looking for corruption. >> nbc news political reporter, doing digging, fact checking on all of this. the president says that ukraine hacked a dnc server. so many years ago, and gave it to ukrainian company called crowdstrike. >> this is, you see tiptoeing around this. essentially alleging ukraine hacked the election, framed russia and all kind done to make trump look bad. there's no evidence behind this. what we know happened, russians hacked the dnc to tak...

Corruption. >> are you sure they did that? mr. president, are you sure about that? again, just bear with me here while i have to explain what those words mean because almost no one takes the time to explain it. do you feel like that because it's so wild. just to be clear crowd strike is not a ukrainian company. it's an american one and cofounded by a guy born in russia who's an american citizen. and it's a publicly listed cyber security company based in sunny california. in fact, get this they have a contract with the republican party right now. they do digital security for foreign 500 compani...