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Seem to have been detonated. we're dealing with someone who's not a master bombmaker, that doesn't reduce the lethality, but it was something that could go from flash to bang and make these things detonate. we have seen these things in the past few years, people were sending crude device ares to military facilities and the law enforcement intelligence agencies, very crude devices, that didn't disrupt, they found the person in short order, again, very crude, very rude mea rudimentary, i don't think these devices would have detonated. it doesn't reduce the lethality, but i think this person will...

The potential shrapnel, if there was a pipe bomb or nails or any other type of metal shards that could impale you. and thirdly, the thermal effect. bombs when they explode typically set off fires and people can perish that way. once we establish the device is either inert or this was a crude device that the bomb-maker wasn't really skilled and it's not lethal, now their determination has got to be who did this, who is behind this or was this a false flag operation or was this somebody literally just trying to send these devices out to cause terror and panic? but before we can call it terrorism...

Spoke today that made a point of saying that new york city is not going to be intimidated, whoever is behind this wants to terrorize people and they are not going to let that happen. there's going to be increased vigilance but there is not going to be fear because of what has transpired over the last few hours. lastly, harris, the device found here at the time warner center, was relatively a crude device, a pipe bomb, but now it is more than three hours since this device was discovered at the mailroom here and you can see how much fear it has resulted in, how it's caused this city to change it...

And the car and they have to be careful and they have a special team that goes in with robotics to remove the devices and they found them at the school. >> are they sophisticated or crude? >> it is unclear. molotov cocktail is a pretty crude device and there is also some ---in tonation there could be vn a pressure cooker. >> you're a former federal prosecutor. the fact they captured the suspect alive and he's talking, how important is that? >> and i was a deputy attorney general for the state of texas as well. it is huge. because now they have -- and in most of the cases, you know, they commit...

Give them a bigger opportunity to make an mistake that we can season. they may be radicalized to ande up one day and make a crude device. >> melissa: great information. >> jon: president trump is a lawyer for a new special counsel, what he wants investigated and how it's connected to the current russia probe. we're live at the white house with that. plus, the fbi busting a teen terror suspect. the reason he was arrested and why his neighbor say they are surprised. >> this is shocking to hear a teenage boy wanted to harm other people like that. i think it is a sign of the times, i guess