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Is one discussion. but the president keep saying wall. is that a metaphor, we should use that word to mean what you're saying, a more complex understanding of the realities on the border and what will surround it? >> i believe that is the case. >> so wall is metaphor. i'm just trying to get it straight, chris. that is one of the things that's holding up the process on daca. i'm trying to nail that down. i appreciate that help. you're always welcome on the show. happy new year to you. >> yeah. you too. a programming note, cuomo primetime. we will talk with senator bernie sanders. why? what ar...

>> i'm just saying. here's what we do know. they had nine hours trying to prove what david is spaerting right n asserting right now. they went after glenn simpson that this was something more than just conscience and nothing came in. >> kellyanne conway is watching. she is wanting to clarify what she said to you on cuomo prime. we will play what she said last night and then we will were listen to what she is telling us this morning. >> we beat her fairly and squarely in this country through this democratic elected process. so many people still can't get over the election. >> says my friend who...