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Handled? what does the public have a right to demand from this investigation? >> i don't know that the public has a right to demand anything with these people. they don't care about our values. so i don't feel really optimistic that we are going to find anything out. i really don't understand, lawrence, how things moved so quickly for roger ailes but they are really not moving at all for bill o'reilly. is it that his ratings are just so, you know, stupendous. we are hearing hess keeping his audience, which sadly makes sense. >> when he gets caught in these sex scandals his audience goes up in ...

So i don't feel really optimistic that we are going to find anything out. i really don't understand, lawrence, how things moved so quickly for roger ailes but they are really not moving at all for bill o'reilly. is it that his ratings are just so, you know, stupendous. we are hearing hess keeping his audience, which sadly makes sense. >> when he gets caught in these sex scandals his audience goes up in the first week always. because they want to see what he is going to say. i think he has proven he is too afraid to say a word. so the curiosity level will level off. >> he has been grandpa scold...

Supporter. so what was your curiosity level to go talk to the former speaker? why did you want to talk to newt gingrich? >> well, i guess i did go into the event with an open mind and my question was directed at him sort of as a hypothetical. if you are elected president, and i, you know -- you are my leader as an american, how do you plan to engage gay americans when your agenda or things you have said, comments you've made in the past clearly don't support us? i wanted to know where we fit in. essentially. >> were you surprised by the answer? >> i was very surprised. i guess looking back, it...

And those who support them? >> i think for those for whom, the only issue that really matters is the definition of marriage, i won't get their support, and i accept that that's a reality. on the other hand, for whom it's not the central issue in their life, if they care about the job creation, if they care about national security, if they care about a better future for the country at large, then i don't think i'll get their support. >> so what if it is the biggest issue? >> then i won't get their support. >> and how do we engage you? >> well, you should be for obama. >> joining me is the man w...