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Craig melvin then they found it, the diary he recorded in secret. And the clues came pouring out. Blood in the bushes. This was the hotspot. This was your Crime Scene. Craig melvin a stunner of a surveillance tape. Jeff wilbert a tarp, a rope. Everything you might need for a murder. Exactly. Craig melvin and what just may be the most sinister Mother Daughter Conversation youve ever overheard. These are not the same people that the public thinks that they are. You realize how cold this family is. Its pretty twisted. Very twisted. [music playing] hello, and welcome to dateline. Stephen moore was...

>> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline. " >> something wasn't right at her house. i saw a lot of police cars. >> that woman was a fighter. she would never leave her daughters. she would never do it. >> michele ran the home. >> she was very proud about how she was able to make ends meet. >> lloyd helped with the kids. >> they're wonderful girls. they're amazing. >> the end came much too soon. >> she's motionless. and i'm concerned. >> there appeared to be a body hanging from a banister. >> from first look it would appear as though it was a suicide. >> but then they looke...

>> something wasn't right at our house. i saw a lot of police cars. that woman was a fighter. she would never make her daughters, she would never do it. >> michelle ran the home. >> she was very proud about how she was going to -- >> law it helped with the kids. >> they had wonderful girls, amazing. >> the end came much too soon. >> she -- and i'm concerned. >> there could be a body hanging from the banister. from first look, it appears that it was a suicide. >> but then they looked closer. >> it appeared there was a struggle. my gut was telling me, there's something wrong here. >> d...

>> they're wonderful girls. they're amazing. >> the end came much too soon. >> she's motionless. and i'm concerned. >> there appeared to be a body hanging from a banister. >> from first look it would appear as though it was a suicide. >> but then they looked closer. >> it appeared that there was a struggle. my gut was telling me there's something wrong here. >> did someone want michele dead? was someone else willing to help? >> at that point we're shell-shocked. >> a bond forged in blood. >> did you cry? >> we called it the lie and cry conversation. >> betrayed by blood. >> what are ...

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