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Then the police can inquire about immigration status. but if they're just seeking services, they're looking to lodge a complaint, they're a witness, to intimidate them by asking them about their immigration status is unnecessary and chilling. they won't come forward to testify in a case. they don't come for medical assistance. i had a personal situation, steve. i was standing on the street corner in manhattan. i saw a car go through a red light and hit a person on a bicycle. and the person on the bicycle got hit very hard, flew literally through the air 10, 15 feet, was all cut up, was all scr...

Assistance. i had a personal situation, steve. i was standing on the street corner in manhattan. i saw a car go through a red light and hit a person on a bicycle. and the person on the bicycle got hit very hard, flew literally through the air 10, 15 feet, was all cut up, was all scraped up. a group ran over. i said, let me call an ambulance. and the last thing this person wanted to do was to be in an ambulance or go to a hospital or talk to a police officer. he got up and pushed the bicycle away. this is a person that is seriously hurt and should have been helped and frankly was probably entit...

Resistance as it's called has been more powerful and more successful than anyone could have imagined immediately after the election, when everything looked so bleak for so many. the documentary filmmaker and activist michael moore now has a broadway show "the terms of my surrender" about resisting president trump. and he joins me now. it's good to have you here in person. >> thank you very much. >> you're working just a few blocks away. >> yes. in a broadway theater. actually, i learned recently, tell me if this is true. you directed lin-manuel miranda's -- >> first musical. >> in high school....

Resistance as it's called has been more powerful and more successful than anyone could have imagined immediately after the election, when everything looked so bleak for so many. the documentary filmmaker and activist michael moore now has a broadway show "the terms of my surrender" about resisting president trump. and he joins me now. it's good to have you here in person. >> thank you very much. >> you're working just a few blocks away. >> yes. in a broadway theater. actually, i learned recently, tell me if this is true. you directed lin-manuel miranda's -- >> first musical. >> in high school....

Absolutely nothing. over what? because somebody tried to take my [ bleep ] away from me. i protected myself. this is what happens. that guy was coming at me with a weapon. i had to do something. i had to do it right then. she's talking about why didn't you get an officer? hell, i can't get an officer. if i went and got an officer, where would i be now? i'd be the one lying in the hospital all cut up. it's a bad deal all the way around. no such thing as defending yourself. coming up -- >> i didn't know he had a knife. >> the stabbing victim comes to general population. >> i stepped back like ...