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But maybe they want us to know they're probing vulnerabilities for cy ops. you don't have to change votes to get in the system. i wonder -- the reason i think it's relevant is they did so many things that were easily detectible. they didn't cover their tracks. when you look at it do you think what's so insidious about this, they can either manipulate the election or manipulate our faith in the election? either way it's a win for russia. >> it's a double-edged sword and that's what's consistent throughout it. they take a very small action even if we as the u.s. government ma gaitigate it and he...

Call cy ops to influence the elections and that is making sure when people are in chat rooms, they know if they're talking to someone from moscow or if they're going to a protest, they know if that protest has been organized by people in their local community, their neighborhood, along with the values and ideals they want to protest or if that's something the russians have particularly instigated to divide us in this country, and that's what we're looking into. >> that's what they did. a lot of groups were instigated by the russians. >> when you talk about trying to make it more possible for p...