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Consumption. and you'll options are bad. >> we don't have any military options except maybe the use of cyber. >> where is this going? is this going to be like so many altercations, dust-ups where it faith out and there's another one a year from now. >> north korea from never give up the nuclear weapons nor its ability to deliver them no matter what happens. the second as a result, we'll have to live with north korea with nuclear weapons. and therefore we need to have the most dependable counter strike capability, cyber capability, anti-missile capability. we have to protect ourselves and our a...

Capability against them. if you all of a sudden you think let's declare war in cyber space, be careful what you ask for, because collectively, there are 30 nations right now that have some level of cyber capability. there are four or five of them that are near peer to the united states. there are two or three that i think are very threatening and in some cases probably have superior capabilities to us in terms of presences, maybe not as sophisticated, but potentially, in a cyber context, more lethal. so i think there are a lot of questions. one of the beauties of being a freshman, i guess now ...

Let's go declare war in cyberspace, be careful what you ask for, because collectively there are 30 nations right now that have some level of cyber capability. there are four or five of them that are near a peer to the united states. there are two or three that are very threatening, and in some cases probably have superior capabilities to us in terms of presences. maybe not as sophisticated, but potentially, and a cyber context, more lethal. so i think there are a lot of questions. one of the beauties of being a freshman, i guess, but being at the end of the day us, all the good questions have ...

Let's go declare war in cyberspace, be careful what you ask for because collectively you could have -- there are 30 nations right now that have some level of cyber capability. there are four or five of them that are near peer to the united states. there are two or three that i think are very threatening and in some cases probably have superior capabilities to us in terms of presences. maybe not as sophisticate d but potentially in a cyber context, more lethal. one of the beauties of being a freshman, now that i'm not a freshman but being at the end, all ofhe gd questions have been asked, but i...

For you. what did you mean by that? >> well, the first thing is why was this information leaked? if there was actually going to be a full scale covert intelligence operation that was going to cripple some form of russian cyber capability or act in a proportional response, it generally wouldn't be leaked to the media. we're very good about some types of secrets. and this being considered at the highest levels of the u.s. government waiting for the president's signature is one of those types of missions that we would not want out unless, of course, we wanted to transmit the punch and let moscow ...