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Denying that we really knew that russia was responsible? what kind of tough negotiator goes into a negotiation, betraying his own position the day before, calling into the question the probativeity of his own intelligence agencies? then saying we need to move on. i don't think we can move on, and i don't think that russia could be a partner in a cyber security unit. if that's our best election defense we might as well mail our ballot boxes to moscow. i don't think that's an answer at all. >> i want to talk to cyber security in a minute. are you saying that the president is not telling the trut...

Now we can move on. i don't think we can move on's i don't think we can expect the russians to be any kind of a credible partner in some cyber security unit. i think that would be dangerously naive for this country. if that's our best election defense, we might as well just mail our ballot boxes to moscow. i don't think that's an answer at all. >> so there you heard schiff questioning the president's reasoning here and he, of course sshs not alone. we've seen republicans do the same, fred. >> all right. athena jones at the white house. thanks so much. so this morning on cnn's "state of the u...

And opinions on this are well known. well, part of what's well known about them is it's a birth murky. the president says russia was responsible but thatter s could have been too. and he has not been as forceful as so many other american officials in both parties have been in frustration and anger towards putin about what happened during the 2016 interference, the cyber hacking. so part of what you get here is a sense from the white house that they are ready to turn the page. they talked about the issues and then want to work with russia on other things including syria. not so fast is what som...

Rationale. a lot of these threats, you keep your enemies close, and that's largely what explains some of these relations past or even embarking on new relations in a different way with russia. we have the cyber security unit. >> yes, all of this closeness has added up to a bunch of hugging at this point. we don't seem to be protecting ourselves. listen, the truth -- >> ellis, i'm so sorry, but your audio is terrible, we have to work on that, and try to get back with you. brian, how about that question to you. i mean, this keeping the enemies close. is that the rationale behind whether the cybe...

Stunning, given what we now know about russia's hack on the election. the president backtracked in the face of ridicule. with economic super powers around the world, the president flirted with the idea that russia should be allowed back in. they were kicked out after the invasion of ukraine and annexation of crimea. so all of that as the background. that's why there are so many questions about just what the president will agree to in this meeting he is set to have in less than 24 hours with no aides present, david. >> yeah, just want to bring up that tweet that geoff mentioned a moment ago. ba...