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The federal funds and brags office has said they spent about $5000 worth of federal money on the investigations into trump and his company between october 2019 august 2021. most of it, they said, was on litigation related to his court battle over his tax returns. well i think the question is this feels very unprecedented. so you ask, do they have authority over it? i mean this lawsuit. it itself is unprecedented. we've never had anything like this. and i think the outcome of what gets decided here will determine that question. i was talking to karen before we walked up here and i said, you kno...

Into the former president and karen to your point. you said i've never seen anything like this. never seen anything like this. before and d a brag in this 50 page, uh, legal filing that was filed today he sets out a campaign of interference and intimidation. because as as you said representative jim jordan is trying to say yes, it's because of these $5000 in federal funds and that you claim that you have oversight over that, but really what alvin bragg sets out with, including the all the tweets by the former president, as well as jim jordan and others. he also included the photo of the baseba...

And also they're looking for grant. excuse me. grand jury information that's covered by secrecy laws because that whole process is secret. so they're trying to block this subpoena as well as any potential future subpoena to brag or any other current or former prosecutors. so in their lawsuit, they write in some um, excuse me. congress lacks any valid legislative purpose to engage in a free rein ranging campaign of harassment in retaliation for the district attorney's investigation and prosecution of mr trump. under the laws of new york. this court should enjoy the subpoena and put an end to th...

Judge because it's an obvious ground for appeal. what do you think? well to be clear. he already has overseen trump case right? and so it's not like he's a kind of random judge who has a problem. the trump organization exactly, but, you know, i don't think it's um we don't want to fall into the trap. of basically trying to undermine the participants in the case, because that is the defense's roll right, and that's what trump wants. so he's going to point out things about the judge is going to point out things about d a brag, pointing out people members of people's family. all of this is to dis...

Really good options, lay the all out. the defense is entitled, t make motions, and you neve know what a judge is going t do, that's the reason why yo lay out your strongest ones. and here, there are just too many options that i'm sure whe the defense looked at this they were actually thinkin this is more than we sort of bargained for. >> catherine, let me just as you to expand on what andrew has said there especially his point about how you don't necessarily have t charge the crime that brough this up to a felony, you jus have to show that there was an intent to commit that crime, whether or n...