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Democracy, by asking to investigate what happened. i will tell you, republicans like devin nunes are pushing back tonight, saying that sally yates and other obama officials are just trying to divert attention from the real story, that in the words of nunes, a red line was crossed with the fbi allegedly infiltrated the trump campaign and allegedly spied on it. a that meeting you mentioned, the president with rod rosenstein, christopher wray, the fbi director, they basically -- the president was demanding a new investigation to find out how this pressure probe started. the president it appears g...

What is your response to y everything you've heard over the weekend? >> well,l, obviously, i'm not going to comment on the specific facts, that's really up to the department of justice to decide on what information should be made public with respect to that. but i think what we are seeing here is the president has just taken his all-out assault on the rule of law to a new level. this time, he is ordering an investigation of the investigators. they are examining his ownwn campaign. you know, that is really shocking. >> sean: what a hard-hitting interview by liberal joe. all three of these deep ...

Information, a slow bleed, to cover themselves. it is all a cya. remember,no they know what's out there. they know they are about to get caught. this is all about controlling the narrative, spinning the narrative, trying p to protect themselves and they probably learned a thingro or two from hillary about acid washing hard drives. we've got to be careful. there is another major component to all of this. rosenstein knows that the inspector general, he doesn't have any real prosecutorial power. horwitz can't convene a grand jury. he cannot indict people. he can only give criminal referrals like ...

Tries to use the department of justice as the private investigatory body, that is not good for the country. the big thing here, this is not about spying on his campaign. it's about what the russians are doing. were they attempting to infiltrate the campaign? that was a concern, and that, in my belief, is what focus of this whole activity was about. >> sean: the same clapper who braggedea about the fbi spying n the trump campaign and said it was a good thing? this is problematic. then there's good old sally yates, who signed off on, yes, one of the fisa warrants like rosenstein and was emailing...

Inspector general's are good in certain circumstances. here's's the problem with mr. horwitz. he cannot interview any of the people who have led the department of justice were fbi. he has no subpoena authority. so all of the people who were part of the plot and were in doj and the fbi are gone. he can't talk to them. all he can do is review documents and talk to whoever is left to do that. what we need is a federal grand jury with a prosecutor, doesn't have to be a special counsel, and by the way, let's remember why we are here. we are here because rod rosenstein, a political coward, someone w...