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Decide between continuing with obamacare the way it is and trying to supplement it so it doesn't go under or going back the way we were i'd be for going back the way we were and then start the process of the reform of the existing health care system and i think more people are better off that way. >> i want to get you on the record here. so you think the health care system before the affordable care act with no changes, back to that, is superior to the one we have now? >> absolutely i believe that. >> let me ask you this -- >> and left us a foundation where we can start to improve our health c...

Bill this afternoon. congressman, you're a yes on this bill i take it? >> i was a yes in committee today based upon the bill as it exists today and we've just completed a 27-hour marathon committee hearing. >> why are you rushing so fast? >> i don't think we're rushing. it came out of energy and commerce and out of ways and means but now, chris it goes to the budget committee and it these go through the budget committee and then the rules committee and then it's put on the floor and whatever we do goes to the senate. >> how many hearings -- open hearings with witness testimony and the like hav...

It will cause in some cases death, in other cases bankruptcies like we used to see with regularity prior to the passage of these health reforms and it will impact every american so part of it is engaging the people on this but while -- >> but those engagements have to turn into votes at some point. >> absolutely. >> unless ron johnson hears those folks, your colleague in wisconsin who was just reelected, unless he hears those votes and thinks i don't want to vote for this aca bill -- >> so there's a couple of things and i suspect chris shares my experience of republicans in the senate quietly ...

Finding their voice, telling their own stories. i had -- there were several rallies across the state of wisconsin but i attended one where person after person shared what this would mean to them, the harm it would cause. it will cause in some cases death, in other cases bankruptcies like we used to see with regularity prior to the passage of these health reforms and it will impact every american so part of it is engaging the people on this but while -- >> but those engagements have to turn into votes at some point. >> absolutely. >> unless ron johnson hears those folks, your colleague in wisco...

>> i think in the long-term executive order won't be the ult mates solution. i think it's a necessary first step. the president has the legal authority to take such action. a lot of ways the president can act. he can use prosecutorial discretion, use some sort of parole discretion. and there's other ways the president can actually move on this as he did before in 2012 with the daca bill. i think congress has shown, at least the senate part, there's a willingness, legislatively, to do something. and the only person really who is stopping any kind of change from happening is john boehner. john b...