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Staying on daca, i'm curious, because of this skepticism, we don't know what's going to happen, president keeps saying we need border security. do you think compromise is possible? >> it's not just democrats saying that we want daca. even sarah sanders in the briefing said should the dreamers be worried, she said, no president wants to get this done. every poly asked about dreamers specifically, you have enormous margins saying yes do something about the dreamers. this is viewed as different issue than the over all question of what do you do about illegal immigration. and so it seems as though...

>> reporter: well, i think democrats, we heard them say after wards, they were encouraged by this and to see the president open to a daca fix and even comprehensive immigration reform it seemed and not necessarily -- >> would you say that one more time? the president actually seemed open to immigration reform? the president elected by hard line positions on immigration, that's just remarkable. >> yeah. you know, the white house has actually said that before although it was noticed a little bit less. so it's not quite as new as you might think, but to have him say it openly in this bipartisan m...

After which people weren't exactly clear whether or not the president would insist that a wall would have to be built as part of a daca fix. the president saying in that meeting my position will be whatever they decide here. not just in this room but whatever congress decides. that will be my position. the president was asked today, well, if congress comes to a decision where there's a daca fix without a wall would that be satisfactory to you. listen here. >> president trump: you got include the wall, we need the wall for security, we need the wall for safety, we need the wall for stopping the...

It best yesterday saying i'm all about border security but i don't want a wall. no wall. there is a way to have better border security by beefing up agents at the border, by beefing up more funding for border security agents across the border. but absolutely building a wall is off the table for democrats. we also want a daca fix to 800,000 daca recipients living in the united states. president trump had the ability to renew daca and he chose not to and leave it in the hands of congress. we want a daca fix. it is not rocket science. there is room for compromise. i'm with you. i hope you're righ...

This president when it comes to getting immigration reform done, you wonder what the approach will be. because we saw such a different strategy from this president when it came to tax reform, sort of a stay out of the way strategy compared to the obama one which wasn't successful. how do you think the president goes at it? what's his role in getting this done? >> you know, it depends. the president talks a lot about the art of the deal. i guess the big question is whether or not his insistence the wall must happen for a daca fix, is that a line in the sand? is that a red line for him or simply...