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Was actually involved in ending this shutdown? because you hear the white house claiming credit, but was this more white house victory or mcconnell victory? >> i think the president, you know, when you have a winning hand you sit there and hold your hand. there was no reason for the president to go out there and negotiate with himself. the reality is the democrats were going to cave because the public was moving against them for all the reasons that i talked about earlier, and there was no reason for the president to go out and do anything other than stand his ground and say we will deal with ...

>> i think it brought the d.r.e.a.m.er issue to the forefront and highlighted the urgency of the d.r.e.a.m.er issue. it has shown us the faces and the stories of d.r.e.a.m.ers. we have seen the stories of people getting deported and separated from their children. what it is doing to the american families and american way of life. it is highlighted urgent issue that needs to be addressed. also showing the horrible -- it showed that chuck schumer could take a position and could hold it for two days. you know, i think it has shown us a lot of things. but we don't know what the end game is going t...

The president's position on the d.r.e.a.m.ers depends on when we get in exchange. is that a position? >> well, i think what it represents is a negotiation and what he's saying essentially is there should be symmetry in this negotiation. the president has indicated that he wants to solve the daca issue and so do most members of congress and we can get that done and it does need to be coupled with border security measures so we don't find ourselves in this position in the future. it's hard to negotiate with somebody when you don't know what their position is, or what position they ultimately wan...

To you how much president trump was involved. was this white house victory or mcconnell victory? >> when you have a winning hand, you hold your hand. there was no reason for the president to go out and negotiate against himself. there was no reason for the president to go out and do anything other than stand his ground and say we will deal with this issue separately. not going to include this in the spending package. i agree something needs to be done on this issue. i also want to point out the president was following the law unlike president obama who didn't follow the law when it came to the...

It's unfair to them and to their families. want to talk the politics of all this with our bipartisan panel. robby mook, rick santorum and anna navarro. did this shutdown accomplish anything in your view? >> i think it brought the dreamer issue to the forefront. i think it highlighted the urgency of the d.r.e.a.m.er issue. it has for the last week, the last ten days, shown us the faces and the stories of d.r.e.a.m.ers. we have seen the stories of people that are getting deported, how they are getting separated from their children, what it's doing to american families and to the american way o...