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Seen what he's done, he has changed the way he's looked at a number of things. he said very definitely changed his attitude towards daca issue. and even the wall once we briefed him. there are places where hygrograph kelley, geo graphically a wall would not be realistic. there are other places we think 800 miles additional wall to include the 600 that are already in place, the fencing, would suffice. >> and mexico is not going to pay? >> we have some ideas how things like visa fees, renegotiation of nafta, what that would mean to our economy. so, in one way or another, it's possible that we co...

Then we just lost our voice too. and that is not wise. >> let's talk about daca. and if there are people in your community who have concerns about what the president's position is on daca. >> there is a misnomer that this president is out to go into neighborhoods and tear families apart. so in my vocation, i have to be able to say, look, we're here to offer hope. i can't break the law. i can't -- i can't use my church as a sanctuary church. but then i'm torn because i'm looking at families with the potential of being ripped apart. it is a real difficult place to be. i think we need more conver...

Floor. the real problem here is in the senate. democrats seem to have reached their breaking point after supporting cr after cr. there have been four since october. and each time that happens the democrats have to go home to explain why it doesn't include any of the their protesters, most notably the daca issue. i think some of them have just gotten to the point where they can no longer explain. the fact that president trump used that kind of language we heard from him last weekend in a private meeting, that's inflamed things as well. you have mark warren and tim kaine of virginia who voted fo...

Members in the freedom caucus? >> i know a lot of folks that are silently a "no." from what i think i know, there's enough it wouldn't pass with republican votes. that's not consistent with what democrats are saying. they're saying they're all "no" unless there's a daca deal. that's really frustrating because essentially democrats are picking 800,000 people whose parents brought them here illegally over funding our defense. what the house has been for since september is fully funding defense for the full year, and then taking the time to negotiate with democrats, to negotiate with the senate t...

Shutdown, who takes the blame here? the daca deadline is march 5th. on the other side, mark meadows say his members may have enough to save this. who will take the blame if we shut down the government? >> well, i mean, democrats are certainly, they have one piece of leverage in washington now. that's spending bills. on the other hand, republicans control the white house, the house, they control the senate. it's hard for me to understand how republicans wouldn't take some or most of the blame for this in the public's eye if the government shuts down. simply because nay control the entire govern...