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Three times as much. that was a surprise to everybody when that came out yesterday. >> it's like the president went to the polls on either side of the immigration debate, and nobody is happy with it. there are more people who find things to dislike in this bill than like it. i think because he put out two such extreme proposals, it's going to be very difficult to get to the center of a compromise. why would you support something that you literally hate more that's in the bill than you like what's in the bill? >> listen to the president give an interview to cnbc and he was asked about daca, the...

This climate, particularly in the legal context. >> different climate today than 2008, no doubt about that. everybody stand by. there's more news. we're following president trump's framework on immigration that's coming from the left and the right. among other things, it includes a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million daca recipients, the d.r.e.a.m.ers, about 700,000. also some hard-line conservatives, they are calling this amnesty. democrats are upset, on the other hand, over what the trump administration would get in return, including money for a border wall with mexico and major cuts to...

Just given who it has upset but it will play a role in the negotiations going forward. as you noted, for the democrats, for people who want d.r.e.a.m.ers to have a path to citizenship, that would exist. it wouldn't just be the 698,000 individuals who have daca protection as it currently stands, it would be the entire universe of individuals who would be eligible for that. the white house estimates that would be about 1.8 million people. look at what conservatives would want out of this proposal. $20 billion in a trust fund for the wall, plus another $5 billion for enforcement. that's another b...

Steve: what's interesting about the numbers when you think 1.8 million. okay, we thought it was 800,000. maybe they made it really big so they can whittle that down. same thing for the wall. we heard the wall is going to take $18 billion. why is it 25? more negotiation. ainsley: democrats really wanted this daca plan the president is saying we will throw in actually more immigrants and allow people to become citizens that's still not good enough for the democrats. senator elizabeth warren tweeted this out by ending daca donald trump subjected 800,000 dreamers to deportation. now he wants to ho...

About here's what i'm for, here's what i'm against. let's pass a bill and stick to it. >> i don't think the president has been all that inconsistent. he's been consistent in saying he wants to do something on daca. he has a tremendous amount of sympathy and empathy for these kids, and he's also been a hardliner on essentially all the other issues surrounding immigration. what i think is being painted as inconsistent is he's tying these two things together. he's saying, in exchange for showing sympathy, empathy which he definitely feels on daca, he wants these hardline changes. that is what imm...