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Proposal democrats won't budget on an immigration deal was a former speechwriter for george w. bush says while the man behind the art of the deal is not willing to compromise, the left won't budget. >> compare the negotiating position that we decide put out this week, donald trump just offered a path to citizenship for 1.8 million illegal immigrants in this country, double the daca population that includes not just the bull who applied for daca and not just legalization which people were discussing but a path to citizenship. that is something that makes his base very uncomfortable but he is wi...

Likely to pass it or more likely to pass it and the president will sign it. so that is -- the president is doing what -- if a president didn't start the process, the process usually doesn't work. >> let me restart with the sticking point that chuck schumer brought up which is the -- the family sponsorship issue. the white house wants to essentially change immigration law for everybody. i believe the previous graham-durbin proposal was just to have the limits put on the daca population. where are you on this? >> well, where i am -- you're starting at the hardest part of the problem to start. >>...

It's impossible. >> bret: what do you mean "over the cliff?" you are expanding the daca population. >> you have a ten to 12 your program. that's far too long. you are cutting 5 out of 7 programs that are in place now for immigrants. you are putting people that are looking right now as immigrants or who are fleeing persecution as refugees, you are not addressing those issues are new or not addressing terrorism with anything with regard to a wall. the southern border, or the northern border because you're not addressing radical islam and isis. sp1 hold on, hold on. wait a second. the white house...

And a back and forth? >> you'd have to ask the democrats, you have chuck schumer claiming he offered wall funding and then pulling that offer back, really can't explain where he's coming from or what he's been saying. our position has been clear, we had democrats and republicans, the house and senate members of the white house to go weeks ago. they walked away with four broad areas they want to take forward for reform. the daca population, border security, chain migration, and the visa lottery. the president is going to put forward a plan that does just that. >> harris: we expect to see that s...

I know the president has already been meeting with republicans and democrats alike. we have a few more weeks to get this done now. i'm confident we can. but we have to be responsible about it. steve: speaking of responsible. senator, what was the point of the democrats shutting down the government? because they didn't get anything they wanted. >> it's mystifying to me, steve. i think what we learned is that the american people don't want to have the government shut down for illegal immigration. you know, we're now on the back side of this shut down, thankfully. but what we have seen is that th...