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Objective as you stated providing legal protection for the daca population while also securing our border and ending chain migration. thank you for the invitation. >> thank you very much for having us down here. i agree with tom cotton that the american public is very frustrated with us. one of the reasons they're frustrated with us is because we continue to couple things on which we have large agreement with things on which we do not agree. this is a perfect example of that. 86% of the american people in the most recent poll are for ensuring as you have said not providing for daca protected k...

Do you need to do your job? congress and the american people have entrusted to you the security of our country. what is it that you need? the list that we have provided is what we need to do our mission that you asked us to do. it's not less than, it's not more than. it's what we need to close those loopholes to be able to protect our country. i would just encourage everyone much more eloquently than i can describe all the reasons why we all i think here are committed to helping the daca population but to truly help the problem it's got to be in conjunction with border security. >> jeff. >> i ...

Clinton were in the senate they voted for strong border security measures. let's stop making this a polar izing issue and recognize that it's foundational to provide uncertainty to the daca population. maria: but isn't it true that the democrats are probably okay with the government shutting down under this president? >> well, i think that if they do that, what they're doing is poisoning the well for any kind of certainty for the population they say they're concerned with. at the end of the day i think it's more of a negotiating tactic and i've been curious to see why senator durbin back in th...

Legislation done there's a lot more to do on immigration reform i'd like to get a lot of it on the front end particularly as it relates to chain migration but then we'll have to move on to visa reform immediately after we succeed on this and i think that we can be successful in advance of the march 5 deadline. maria: but what about the january 19 deadline? i mean why would the democrats agree anything knowing that that will just further this president 's agenda and they've been on instructionists the entire first year? >> well i think my friend, senator durbin whose been working on the dream a...

Out the extremes that have been the root cause for the problem not being solved for 20 years. maria: it sounds like you think an agreement will take place the government will not shutdown come january 19 and you think that the president will get his funding for the border wall and just an agreement? >> i think if the president continues to show the strong leadership he has on this issue and that message is sent to congress that if you don't produce provisions that let me honestly say to the american people we've secured the border, then we're talking about it being subject to a veto and that's...