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Personal character didn't so impede their ability to govern. but, betsy, i want to ask you, we sort of glossed over the fight that he's having with "the wall street journal." it's pretty fundamental. he seems to have said, i have a great -- he thinks that the twitter taunts constitute a relationship. i mean, he is like a 12-year-old commander in chief who thinks that -- i don't know what other kind of relationship they have unless he's suggesting there are talks we don't know about. >> right. it's understandable the white house would go to war over that particular -- >> who is next, sean hanni...

Mcconnell sometimes on policy, but i keep it on a level such that i think we have good relations and do i think he does a good job herding the cats that are up here, the disparate, different philosophies, right, left and middle? it's a difficult job. he does a good job with it. >> very last question and this is also a yes or no question. would the country benefit from a republican presidential primary in 2020? >> i think no one can stop primaries from happening and there could well be a primary that happens. before you even get to that, you need to know, is president trump running for re-elect...

2025 and most americans are -- congress needs to make sure these become perminent. but this question brings me to, if we can put up alex's top five. alex covers the house for us specifically. that's what this house looks at. and i think to frank's point and, well, yes, it's going to matter a lot in the senate, this question of hough the tax bill plays gets to the heart of your question which is can democrats win back the house? >> republicans really needed to pass a tax reform bill to get a win on the board for them going into 2018. but democrats are saying nancy pelosi said herself before the...

Of energy and activism in the democratic base. the question i think you have to ask is, is the sort of trump frustration and to some degree the trump dementia that's grasped the democratic grassroots enough to take back the house. whether or not nancy pelosi is leader doesn't really matter. >> and if they do take back the house, that brings into question a whole different discussion potentially about impeachment and the ramifications of the russia investigation which we haven't even touched on. that still seems destined to dominate the year in the conversation. potentially as the year has clos...

Doesn't mean i agree with him on everything. if we could end the afghan war, that's who i would support. i don't think that's going to be an alternative to president trump. so i like to accentuate the positive, the things i agree with him on. >> still not a yes or no answer but thank you. >> i think we need a primer. >> i think it's a pretty good answer that we have no idea. you can't answer a question -- >> i asked if it would be good for the party. my interview with senator gillibrand whose insistence that al franken resign was a watershed moment among democrats in the senate. dads don't t...