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The daca recipients, said it was going to go away. and democrats you better act unless you see these people you care about and want to protect be subject to deportation. so you don't have that leverage anymore? >> that's right. if you don't act now, democrats you, won't have anything and daca recipients will get deported. that's not the case. we don't have to accept things that are truly egregious, have nothing to do with fixing our broken immigration system in order to get daca relief. and so focus on now getting daca relief. test the president. if he is serious that he wants to get daca done...

Is a kind of hostage situation. they took these hostages. the daca recipients, said it was going to go away. and democrats you better act unless you see these people you care about and want to protect be subject to deportation. so you don't have that leverage anymore? >> that's right. if you don't act now, democrats you, won't have anything and daca recipients will get deported. that's not the case. we don't have to accept things that are truly egregious, have nothing to do with fixing our broken immigration system in order to get daca relief. and so focus on now getting daca relief. test the ...

Sixth of march if something gets done by the 5th. >> that's a great question. many of us have been working day in and day out. provide some kind of daca relief. especially since 83% of americans or more support allowing the dreamers to stay here. that march 5 date is an important one and what i think you'll see is many stories of people who will be deported. and remember, the government has all of the information of these young people. they know exactly where they are. if this administration is determined to send agents to people's homes in a round up fashion, they can certainly do that. so yo...

And everybody seems to think this is something that is going to get solved. now, those negotiations seem to be going by the wayside and falling apart. i'm wondering if that's your view of where things stand right now. >> well, i'm still optimistic that the congress can come to some kind of compromise on daca so that we can make sure that 800,000 young people who have only known the united states as their home are not subject to deportation. i'm still optimistic about that. i think we have to be optimistic about it. i've heard discussion about a border wall. but bear in mind, this is no longer ...

Border wall. but bear in mind, this is no longer a matter of convincing the american people to do something for the daca kids. 83% of americans support daca relief. it's a matter of convincing president trump and the republican majority in congress to listen to the american people and do the right thing. >> is there any circumstance under which democrats could accept a wall on the mexican border to pay for that wall in exchange for helping these kids or would you -- do you think that the government should shut down over that? >> well, i don't see -- i think that's going to be a very tough deal...