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Conditions in some places and figuring what is actually necessary. but there's a bigger consideration. there are actually two. let's go one by one. raj, is this wall so important that it will overwhelm what the president said he really wants, which was a bill of love? because you've got to make a choice right now. it's pretty clear. if you want to help the d.r.e.a.m.ers and help with that urgent circumstance and not keep seeing stories like we did like jorge garcia torn away from his family and sent to mexico, a place where he hasn't lived since he was 10 years old, you're going to have to act...

That's what we're pushing for. >> where's your heart? you know the dreamers are in a fix. these aren't your typical illegals as you like to call them. you know the story of the man separated from his family in detroit. that's not what we're supposed to be about. you heard the president say he wants a bill of love. where's your love? >> we have love for the rule of law. let's do thins we campaign on and american people elected us to do. let's do those first and then deal with the daca situation. the election was about a border security wall. chain migration. board those were front and center. p...

And shouldn't that come before these other considerations which matter but aren't as urgent? >> we think not. we do think border security is a very urgent situation. say that to the family of kate steinle. say that to other families -- >> say that to the family of jorge garcigarcia, who just wat him get thrown out. >> chris, let's be clear. a daca fix would not help jorge garcia. he's not a daca recipient. >> he missed it by one year. but you could make changes in the law where you consider these kinds of things. >> we could. that is not even addressed by the graham/durbin proposal. let's be c...

I want to become radicalized and conduct terror in new york city. i don't care what the white house says. they're wrong. >> phillip mudd appreciate your perspective as always. >> thank you. >> to our international viewers, we appreciate you watching. for you cnn "newsroom" is next. for our u.s. viewers, "new day" continues right now. let's get after it. >> he has evolved in the way he's looked at things. >> let's do things that the american people elected us to do. then we can deal with the daca situation. >> you can't say sur is render your position or else we shut down the government. that's...

We're going to bring you flake's entire address as soon as he begins. let's move on to keeping the government open. >> small issue. >> look, erol lewis, lindsey graham just made remarks, it's nults to do defense spending now and dac later. do them now both. he said republican's stance in the daca situation is naive after he made many headlines yesterday with his remarks as well. >> that's right. the effort by lindsey graham to get some sort of compromise here harkens back to an older time -- >> with daca. >> well, listen, kicking this issue down the road, can down the road has gotten nowhere. ...