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It's completely complex. we need both parties to work together. we need both leadership right now. lisa: hilario if you have these families in central america and hearing here in the united states healthcare to illegal immigrants, does that not incentivize? >> well, that's part of the complex issue. we need to work on border security. we need to work on finding a permanent solution for dreamers. also, what can we do to prevent these migrants coming and making this long, dangerous journey. brian: you are a strong spokesperson for the daca status. the president wants to do a deal. he almost had ...

Not even the same fullback. this is strictly temporary. so a permanent wall in exchange for temporary daca status for democrats is a nonstarter. that said, i think it's going to become pretty clear pretty quickly this week that even if the senate does move this through successfully, it's not going to become law. so then they have to go back to the drawing board. and mitch mcconnell has been a very sort of enigmatic figure throughout this drama. he was burned by the president and has been unwilling to publicly clash with him in the wake or come out and say he know what is the president thinks. ...

Did he have daca status and the federal government says no. ted, thank you very much. live report from des moines, iowa. ainsley: more "fox & friends" coming up. o business s. like the ones we teach here, every day.

Their daca status for at least another year or year and a half. >> congress can continue to put this off, i presume, pete? >> yeah. it takes the pressure off them. >> certainly does. pete williams, thank you very much. the debate in washington over immigration reform and president trump's promoted border wall looks different than the reality on the ground along our southern border. msnbc's jacob soberrov is traveling along the border and he began a series in his home state of california. here's a quick preview. >> hey, there, we're-0 feet below san diego in the gal very easy smuggling tunnel...

It turns out taggalo was one of them. >> to understand it, write it. i guess the program was a chance for to us give back. and we want to show you guys -- >> protecting this country and potentially dying for it is maybe not a problem. because we love this country. >> foreign born troops can become naturalized citizens only after they complete basic training and extensive back ground checks. the entire process can take years. john and james might not have that much time. their daca status expires in pocket and their race against time is continually detoured by changing requirements in delays. >...