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These meetings with the dems is changing his mind on all of these things. you always have to worry obviously donald trump was a new york liberal for much of his life and so its always been a question of where is he philosophically, but i think the statement from sanders is pretty clear which is exactly what he said when he got out of it is, you know, we'll listen if there's a better deal we'll consider it but if it turns out he gets out of it i think people are going to start asking again, you know maybe steve bannon was serving something of a useful role in the white house in terms of pressin...

Hopefully with that in mind, i know there's a lot of members on both sides and our problem solvers caucus, the whole daca thing is a big deal. we're trying to get our hands around that. the timing was right i think to meet with the president. and i think based on what i heard from schumer and pelosi, they're ready to work on this. i think we're close. there's a dreamer's bill out there. it has no poison pills i can see. nothing partisan about it. think the country's moved on in that regard. a lot of these young men and women that are getting college degrees, fought for our country, should have...

Whole daca thing. there's an inability to empathize with real people are affected. that's part of the reality show effect. reality shows exist in their own bubble. when you're on survivor, the only purpose is to win. this is "survivor" but with a body count. >> you mentioned the hurricane. donald trump still talks about ratings. like they're an independent metric. but he, unlike some people in this building, is not on a tv show anymore. so it is really weird. you used the word discordant. that's a very fancy word. i would say bizarre, weird, potentially destructive to talk had way. take a list...