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Tag they have just estimated, by the way. >> yeah, well speaking of that price tag what does it mean to you in your experience when numbers start getting floated? dollar signs, does is that bode well for the families when they start to tally the costs? >> well, it doesn't, because then we get into legalese problems, we don't have a lot of right to pick on those, because in the massive cases like twa, that was more than the ntsb's annual budget what that cost. so various government agencies and search and rescue teams were said to ask twa's insurers saying hey, it is time to step up and pay for...

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Overseas, they're estimating less, maybe less than a billion. if it is a crime against the airline they have yet another policy. it is time to ask the airlines and insurers what they're going to cover. >> mary, david, thank you so much. the families are not the only ones waiting for closure. law enforcement officials around the world still consider this an open case with no group claiming responsibility for taking that jet. of course, the terrorism angle is still an open question. and with questions of counterterrorism, they can't afford to dismiss the possibility. >> when a plane goes missing...

Me that this is a game of inches. something very delicate. that if you're going to go down and collect a black box you can't just go down, and zip right back up with it? >> no, that is very true. >> reporter: we have a black box right here already in the claw of this vehicle. and just show me o-- it is a vey delicate operation just to put it into the basket that we need to put it in to carry it back up to the surface. and while you're watching this, notice how the water is moving and how cloudy it is here. it is sediment that can be a problem if you stir it up. it is almost like blowing into a...

Accident investigator how one would approach even examining debris? >> well, there's, you know, items on the macro scale or large scale that we would be looking at but also things on the micro scale. so they would be looking at how the metal is deformed, what part of the airplane, the way it is bent, the angles, and also for some of the items, they're going to look at the smaller cracks and smaller lesions and so forth that that might be telling also. the bottom line is you have to get wreckage in your hand and decide what level they feel like they're going to need to look at it. >> say we kno...