Unless victims and survivors own and believe that and see the evidence of that... crosstalk. but are you telling them they shouldn't believe it? i'm not telling them anything. i'm at the end of the line, as is steve reeves, when they contact us to say, "what is happening? "we don't know what is happening. "we've been told options are being developed "but nobody�*s talking to us." so, we're still the data controllers. when we left, we were told, "you're only to deal "with the data, nothing else." so, that is something we're trying to manage. and incidentally, stephen, in november last year, i...