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We're going to see when this actually takes place and what kind of attention is shown on it. at that point, do the voters pay attention and does it become part of the calculus of what we see now in polling which is 50% of americans want democrats to come in to the majority as a check on an overreaching president trump. so it is potentially an abuse of power. we'll see what the response is when, like i said, when the actual data dump happens. if it happened today, we're in the middle of this brett kavanaugh thing and the white house would be happy to have it consumed by that. >> so susan, forgi...

Should not try to get back on them or make it up with this kavanaugh nomination, right? >> this is just getting even. they are both excellent judges and kavanaugh is more conservative than garland. no question. >> but there is no merit to this thing we got so many documents, it was a dump. >> i think that's -- >> do you think that's the strategy? >> i think that's a sham. i'll tell you why. brett kavanaugh is on the bench for, what, ten, 12 years. he's written hundreds of opinions. >> over 300 opinions. >> that's what you read. that's what he tells you about various issues. whoever the staffer...

What republicans did with garland is wrong but democrats should not try to get back on them or make it up with this kavanaugh nomination, right? >> this is just getting even. they are both excellent judges and kavanaugh is more conservative than garland. no question. >> but there is no merit to this thing we got so many documents, it was a dump. >> i think that's -- >> do you think that's the strategy? >> i think that's a sham. i'll tell you why. brett kavanaugh is on the bench for, what, ten, 12 years. he's written hundreds of opinions. >> over 300 opinions. >> that's what you read. that's wh...

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Relationship. anybody who watches knows how i feel about trump. michael and i go back 15 years. i've tried to help him in way. my a at the end of the day michael will have to do what's best for his family because he doesn't have a loyalist on the other side of the equation. >> do you think he understands that more than previously in. >> i think every day he's understood it more and more. the way you kind of frame the issue about the payments. that's not what they are fighting about. i think trump has stepped aside from paying because he wants the assumption to be none of this is my gig. if it ...