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Two of the senators. before we talk more about what just transpired, we want to go from the senate to the house in effect. adam schiff, california democrat, who is ranking democrat, on house intel has been kind enough to wait for this break with us and stand by to talk to us. congressman, i've been cautioned that because of your schedule of meetings on the house side, you unlike us have not been able to listen to and follow the testimony, but luckily there is plenty of other material to talk to you about. most notably a story in the past hour from the mcclatchy newspaper group about your inves...

Investigating is did the russians begin this as an intelligence gathering operation and later decide to make it a weaponization of data operation or did they begin with that intent in mind? >> i'm sorry to interrupt. you're saying that the russians had done the hacking already but at the point of this meeting they were holding the intelligence? they were holding the stuff that they had stolen? >> yes. >> but then after this meeting happened in trump tower, they then started releasing it publicly? >> if this is in june of 2016, that's exactly right. so the hacking had been earlier. the theft of...

Clinton, and jared kushner's role is data analytics. he is in charge of their data operation who used targeted date at to push out information positive about their candidate and negative about their opponent. we also know that a few weeks after this, july 22, i believe, wikileaks drops its first dump of data from the dnc. you have this coalescing of events that could be causal or coincidenceal of a meeting with a person who has data, and wikileaks all occurring within a few weeks of one another. potentially, there's significance there in that the fbi and special counsel mueller will want to lo...

Want to talk to trump about the campaign's data operation. it's the same thing the senate intelligence committee want to talk to jared kushner about, what does this tell you? >> it tells me something about about the investigation, which is it's just not obstruction. i think one of the things people are focused on is oh did donald trump try to obstruct this investigation, that's an important issue but not the starns of what the special prosecutor is looking at. there are potential crimes that are being investigated, whether there are collusion at the extreme end, or financial dealings that are ...

He said that president trump was not under investigation at various points when he was the fbi director. as for the white house, they also left to the president's defense, insisting the president is not a liar, that is after comey said he started to document his interactions with trump, because he was worried the president would mischarac r mischaracterize the conversations. and the president's son-in-law, jared kushner is expected to meet with committee members. federal investigators are looking into the handling of the data operation during the campaign and his relationship with fired mich...