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A lot about what happened here already. however, if -- if authorities unable to uncover or receive those black boxes, it -- does this really critically hamper a full and final investigation or is there enough evidence outside of what may be on those data recorders for the families to get full knowledge of what has transpired? >> i think the latter is largely true, poppy. it's always nice to know more, but we know enough. and it's important also to remember that while it was, in fact, a missile that brought this aircraft down, like any aircraft accident or tragedy or incident like this, it is a...

Does that, you got to get this radical organization dedicated to destruction of israel, get rid of them and then maybe. >> we have to hope, for both sides. colonel rick francona, bob baer, thanks very much. the next hour of cnn newsroom begins right now. welcome everyone, 7:00 here on the east coast. the cnn newsroom. i'm poppy harlow joining you from new york. >> i'm jim shoot toe joining us from washington. armed pro-russian rebels are complicating, really complicating efforts to investigate the downing of malaysia airlines flight 17. the rebels still control the crash area along the r...

Investigators get on scene, when there is some agreement reached with the leaders of the rebel commanders, that they will reach an agreement that allow the investigators to do their job and there will be enough evidence and wreckage left so they can reach the conclusions they're going to make. >> in terms of what conclusions they are going to be able to reach, if they get access to data recorders and if it turns out this plane was brought down by a missile, will the voice and data recorders be able to conclusively. >> the voice recorder, listening listening to transcripts of the pilots, sounds...

There and not given full access. american officials say they believe the plane was brought down by a missile, possibly fired by pro-russian rebels, most likely with backing from russia. all this is still being established. meanwhile, a team of special investigators from malaysia has arrived in ukraine's capital, kiev, hoping to begin the process of finding out what happened to their commercial airliner. now, a freelance journalist spent today traveling to the crash site in eastern ukraine and joining me now live on the phone. what do we know first of all, and this has been one of the big quest...

Even be a remotely descent operation. >> david gallo, the black boxes, if they -- we don't know where they are. there have been reports they have been handed over to russian authorities. we simply don't know. we cannot confirm anything. there are a lot of rumors at that point and we don't want to go down the road. >> sure. >> can black boxes be scrubbed, broken into. >> sure. >> they can certainly be made to disappear. >> they are just data recorders in the right hands or wrong hands, sure, you can compromise seals and change and erase things. i don't know what evidence would be on the black b...